Sunday, December 5, 2010

Top Groupies Of All Time: Sable Starr and Lori Maddox


Hanging out with musicians is any girl's dream come true. Well, these girls did just that. Mind you, these two girls, Sable, the unofficial queen of the 70's LA glam rock scene, and Lori, her best friend, were only around 13 at the time. These baby groupies strutted around Sunset Boulevard  on their shiny platform heels, eyes and ears peeled for the likes of Led Zeppelin or David Bowie to show up. I personally don't like these baby groupies very much, their personalities leaving a lot to be desired, but then again, what 13 year who thinks they're the hottest thing around isn't catty? Still, they deserve a mention, these were wild times and these were wild girls.


*EDIT*
Due to the comments I keep getting on this particular page, I felt the need to write this. The reason for this post was to not only post a collection of photos of music and fashion from the 70's, but to also talk about a certain period of time, a moment in history, and the people involved. Nowhere on here does it say I approve of the behavior of the musicians and the groupies. Not once did I say that what they did was ok. It's like if I made a post about the Holocaust - another period in time that I'm interested in and I've read so much about- and saying that I condoned what happened during the Holocaust. I love history (and history has good and bad parts) and the only reason I made this blog was because I like to write about things that interest me, I like to collect pictures, and I like when a person discovers my blog and learns something new or rediscovers something they had forgotten.







 Lori modeling with fellow baby groupie Shray Mecham for Star Magazine.





Queenie Glam, Shray, and Sable.


With Iggy Pop.


With Debbie Harry.

With Keith Moon and Annette Walter-Lax.


With Led Zeppelin and groupie Morgana Welch at the Rainbow Bar & Grill. I've been there a couple of times, not as amazing as I thought it would be, but still crawling with would-be groupies and musicians. I actually saw a certain special someone there, coming out of the bathroom before their first gig at The Key Club. Anyroad, the caption to this picture is pretty hilarious.


With John Bonham.


I'm sure you all know what went down with Jimmy and Lori, so I won't bother to repeat it here.


Just like Jimmy and Lori were a complicated pair, so were Johnny Thunders and Sable.


With Iggy and Johnny.


With Sylvain Sylvain.


With Stiv Bators.


With BP Fallon.

With Dave Hill.


Sable with Mackenzie Phillips and the unofficial mayor of the Sunset Strip, Rodney Bingenheimer, posing outside of the English Disco.


Sable with other baby groupies posing with Rodney outside the Continental Hyatt House (The Riot House).


42 comments:

  1. The only reason i kind of like Lori Maddox is because her existance pisses Pamela Des Barres off!!! LOL!

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    1. It bugs me when she always says how empowering it was being a "muse". She slept with rock stars. Period.

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  2. I just decided I love your blog :D

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  3. These girls are children. Shame on the adults involved. There is nothing nice here.

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  4. LOVE THIS! Love them. Crazy how young they were. Music is nothing without the girls. Style icons for sure!

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  5. It is all a very long time ago now!!

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  6. Jimmy Page and Lori Maddox were NEVER lovers. He just used her as a groupie when the band was around in LA. Very boring story in fact.

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    1. You might want to check your facts on that as they both openly admit to the relationship.

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    3. Agree, they couldn't have been in a relationship... because technically she was a child.

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    4. Well they did have a "relationship" if you want to call it that. He actually pursued HER relentlessly at first but she kept rejecting his advances. That is until Richard Hell (Zep's road manager I think) kidnapped and dragged her to Jimmy's hotel room one night, on the threat of being fired by Jimmy if he didn't. She soon fell under his "spell" and actually consented to being imprisoned in his hotel room for long periods of time because he didn't want to risk being caught sleeping with a minor. Being just a kid she unfortunately mistook this for love and romance instead of abuse and control. Inevitably he soon became bored with the whole thing and coldly discarded her one night in favour of another older groupie, Bebe Buell. I think the part in "Almost Famous" where Penny Lane almost od's after Russell pretends like he doesn't know her, is loosely based on that incident.

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  7. ^^^ Obviously Jimmy Page. :-)

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  8. Jimmy Page never loved any of LZ's groupies. He just used girls as if they were unpaid whores. Very easy for him. Jimmy had a stable home life in England in fact.

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    1. Where does it say that Jimmy Page loved any of the groupies on this blog? The groupies might claim otherwise, but I think it's pretty obvious to anyone that they were just used. Also, he might have a stable home life now, but I highly doubt it was stable back then. If it was, there would be no need for all the drugs and groupies in first place..

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  9. That group shot above was not taken at the Rainbow, it was at Bingenheimer's English Disco (it says so right in the caption that you mention so I am not sure how you missed it).

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    1. Just because it's in the caption doesn't mean it's right! I've actually been to the Rainbow and that's what the booths in the back looked like. Unless the inside of the English Disco looks exactly the same ??

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  10. To me, groupies are awesome. Don't know why so many people dislike them.

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    1. Because they're jealous, haha. Most groupies like Catherine James or Miss Pamela are cool, but others like Sable and Bebe are/were real bitches. One thing's for sure, they all knew how to have fun, have great stories to tell, and they had amazing style.

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    2. WHAT IS more obscene is HOW SOCIETY CANONIZES "CELEBRITIES". Poor, Jack Nicholson did NOT get 1/1000th the girls he got once Rich & Famous. That's a very very sad statement about society. JUST because you make music that people love, you get treated BETTER than other people? Come on. That's OBSCENE.

      Bruce Willis is an ORDINARY guy like everyone else. So GUESS WHY he's got a zillion women throwing themselves at him. See? THAT's the awful part of FAME and money. It's really the downfall of ALL society. Sleazy businessmen and politicians (et al) DO THEIR GREEDY CAPITALIST CRIMES because of ONE thing: they want girls. They want love and respect. See how completely screwed up society is, because of this culture of "celebrity"? No girl today wants to be a veterinarian! She wants to be a movie star, or a movie star, or maybe an actress/movie star! Or maybe a model!! See? And the horrible "Operation Kardashian" has made society far worse than back then. TODAY, the 11 year olds take naked selfies and post across the globe! YIKES! Today, the role model of a zillion young girls is Kardashian and THE SEX-TAPE THAT MADE HER FAMOUS! Yikes! THAT is something we should all be horrified about. Jimmy Page was a beautiful man. Even guys find him attractive. You can't compare that with a Jerry Sandusky or catholic priests raping all the kids, etc. So dishonest, sigh.

      We know life as a groupie was loads of FUN... with even more loads of HEARTBREAK. No girl wants to be used. Hell, even for the rock stars it's also heartbreaking. (Guys fall in love much easier than girls do. The problem with guys, is that they fall for EVERYTHING that moves, but can't DATE 2 gals at once. So they MUST leave behind 99%.)

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    3. Groupies just liked the idea of sleeping with famous people and everything else that went with it....the excitement, the glam and glitter, etc. Let's face it, young naïve girls and fickle rock stars aren't exactly relationship material. Still, you have to admit their stories are pretty interesting.

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  11. I envy any 70s rock groupie. Its not just about sleeping with rockstars its about being apart of the music. Inspiring it. I mean listening to great rock while sitting on Robert plants lap.....I mean come on. Who wouldn't want that?

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  12. google "Led Zeppelin: There was a whole lotta love on tour
    Naked and bound groupies, under-age sex, brutal violence...Simon Hardeman examines the underbelly of the beast"
    Nothing "nice" here at all .. Just too many drugs, too many somnambulist's.. paedophiles and rapist.. Centre Stage.. and no one said a word.. Instead a blog site, dedicated to "dreaming of the past" ??
    Still walking in the wilderness in somnambulance.

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    1. yep, it's a well known fact that raped kids were generally looking for it.
      you could have a glittering career as a paedo ahead of you, congratz!

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    2. Oh dear! These girls put on those outfits FOR A REASON, they went on the strip looking for musicians FOR A REASON. I mean, they certainly didn't go back to their hotel to get help with their homework! I think at 13 you know the difference between right and wrong, the motives behind your actions (even if those motives/actions are stupid. Like I said those girls weren't forced to even be there, and if they weren't happy I'm sure the girls' parents or the girls themselves would have gone to the police.

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    3. Thanks for sharing, for some they can't seem come to terms with the fact that others CHOOSE to live by a different moral code than they do and feel it is their born right to force all other humans to adhere to the same rules. It as a different era and I don't think anyone involved looked at it through the same lens in such negative and hateful terms. I did a lot of things at a young age that I probably would not now at 40, but isn't that all part of the learning experience? Lori Maddox loved Jimmy and stayed with him well after she was past the age of consent. Her mother was also aware of and approved the relationship. The only thing violated were United States LAWS and CHRISTIAN MORALITY. I'm not a cop, and even if you happen to be it's way past the statute of limitations preacher. Nobody got hurt, nobody involved says anything negative about it and it's a sad society we live in where someone not even involved in the situation when it occurred is making a big deal about nothing. Go spend your time trying to stop the United States from bombing other countries, you'll do a lot more good for children in this world today and their well being than trying to persecute Jimmy Page for his relationship with Lori in 1974.

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    4. A 13 year old may think they know what they want. We all thought we knew it all in our teens. However, the rock stars were all adults and they definitely knew what they were doing was wrong. Why do you think Jimmy Page was hiding Lori Maddox in hotel rooms? And do you think Robert Plant would have allowed his daughter to cavort around with rock stars at 13 years old? Highly unlikely ...

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    5. ALL of you saying a 13 year old can't know what she wants are NOT BEING HONEST. Fact: I've never met a 20 year old gal or 30 year old gal who Knows What She Wants either! If a 15 year old CANNOT CONSENT (b/c she's too ignorant or immature), well the SAME can be said about nearly ever 25 year old on the planet! An "adult" is simply a child (still) who must ACT like they know what they're doing. If CONSENSUAL sex is called "rape", you JUST helped all the REAL rapists out there lessen the impact of what THEY do. You cannot use the absurd LIE that teens are too vulnerable? ALL of us at ALL ages are vulnerable and make BAD decisions. When drunk. When lonely. When on the rebound. And on and on and on. In fact, almost NO HUMAN HAS EVER MADE SMART DECISIONS when it comes to affairs of the heart OR affairs of the loins. STOP BEING DISHONEST.

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    6. Naked and bound groupies, under-age sex, brutal violence...Simon Hardeman examines the underbelly of the beast" Yes, very true. I was shocked after reading "Hammer of the Gods". It certainly is a fitting title because they WERE worshipped like gods and they knew it. They got away with statutory rape, kidnapping, violence, and abuse of all kinds. I still love Led Zeppelin but WOW.

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    7. "ALL of you saying a 13 year old can't know what she wants are NOT BEING HONEST". Oh please. How can 13 yr. olds know what they want if they haven't had any life experience, yet? Every 13 yr. old I've met so far has "stars in their eyes" and they romanticize the world as this big, exciting, glamorous, place. They're extremely impressionable at that age and make their decisions based on impulse...not reason. At least 20 and 30 yr. olds have had some life experience behind them and have learned a thing or two about themselves. Thirteen yr. olds still need guidance so they're (hopefully) better prepared for the future. Comparing the two is silly.

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  13. This is rape culture. A 14 year old girl being locked in a hotel room for 18 months did not go "looking for it". She was abused

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    1. Then explain WHY they claim they went looking for it?

      Explain WHY they claim they loved it?

      Explain WHY they claim it was the best time of their lives?

      Explain why NONE of Jerry Sandusky's ACTUAL rape victims have said similar stuff! (There goes your Stockholm Syndrome excuse, no?)

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    2. Lori wasn't interested in Jimmy Page at first...he's the one who relentlessly pursued HER. Then when he got tired of chasing her himself he ordered Richard Hell (Led Zep's road manager I think) to kidnap Lori and bring her to his hotel room or else he'd be fired. So he then proceeded to drag Lori into his car and she was told to shut up and behave. Nice eh? Oh and then after she fell madly in love with Jimmy he ended up discarding her like a piece of trash for Bebe Buell. Anyway glad she bounced back. I personally would have been scarred for life.

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  14. blogs like these attract the usual opinionated comments. I for one am happy to admit that the 70's was a combination of naive fun and seedy lifestyle. to look at a photo and sum it all up as only one of those elements is just a reflection of the person posting the comment.
    I will say that neither Lori Maddox or Sable Starr were victims though... they chose to hang around older men and chose to leave when it wasn't fun anymore. of course that kind of thing is impossible for alot of people to comprehend this day and age...... the culture of "victims" and "suing for money" because you can.

    that comment of "Naked and bound groupies, under-age sex, brutal violence"..... ok.....

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    1. Ah, someone who understands! Thank you.

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    2. Groupies are still around and I'm sure just as young as they were in the 1970's. I am not saying that the Musicians, Actors, and the like are innocent. Questioning the parents. Would you let your children loose at a young age? Groupies in the 70's had their pictures everywhere.

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    3. I'll go even further and say the MOST DANGEROUS thing for a society is to have DUMB teens hanging out with... DUMB teens. As a boy, I only hung out with a much-older crowd (b/c there were no kids my age around). As you can imagine, I was the most MATURE ten year old ever seen, b/c my INFLUENCES were not vacant fellow ten year olds. (I didn't have sex til I was 17, but started smoking pot at 8, and so on.) MOST females prefer much-older men, b/c they are not as BORING or IMMATURE as younger males, duh. I would argue we need MORE women in their 20s and 30s dating teen boys, to mature them faster (b/c we REALLY dumb down young people, do we not?) and ditto older men and teen girls. EVERY one of my female friends dated older guys as teens. You can hate that all you want, but it's TOTALLY HONEST... and it's also evidently MOTHER NATURE's PLAN, no?

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  15. WERE THE HELL IS MARIA PEREZ

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  16. This was all so long ago. So very long ago. Lori always seemed like a sweet little airhead even in her 30's. And now she is like 55?

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  17. I used to go to the Riot House, Rainbow Room, etc to dance and have fun but I was not a groupie. I met Lori and liked her. One night, she hustled me into my car and asked me to chase a limo, which as it turned out, contained at least some members of Led Zep. We kept up with them until Keith Moon stuck his head out the far side window (I saw him) and yelled "Piss off, Lori!" At that, I stopped following them and Lori was in tears, saying she didn't know why they were treating her that way. I knew but I kept my mouth shut. No time for lectures about if you act like a whore, you get treated like a whore.

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  18. Sex with 13 and 14 year old children is rape. Whether in the 1970's with a scuzzy rock "star', a bit later with Roman Polanski, or now with Jerry Sandusky. Rape is rape, even if the man doing it is wearing a guitar and tight jeans.

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    1. Your analogy is PERFECTLY false and wrong: "RAPE" is defined as NON-CONSENSUAL. "Statutory RAPE" is the most offensive term I've maybe ever heard. B/c YOU LESSEN how serious REAL rape is. (If "rape" means BOTH consensual sex and NON-consensual sex, then you people are LITERALLY mentally ill.) It helps REAL rapists. NOW, when we hear of a older guy charged with rape, society asks "is this ACTUAL rape, or was this the OPPOSITE of rape... y'know: CONSENSUAL"? See how you're helping REAL rapists?

      PLUS, Age is arbitrary, so only a DISHONEST person ever cites age. (I know 14 year olds twice as mature and smart as many 30 year olds, who are as dumb and immature as can be!) AGE DISCRIMINATION is a crime, BTW. To EVER judge an individual by their AGE makes YOU a despicable, insincere human being. Was Lori a naive 13 year old? OF COURSE. And almost every 30 year old WOMAN I've met is naive and ignorant in most ways.

      MOST IMPORTANTLY, NOT ONE of Sandusky's victims WANTED to be with that ugly old guy! So you LIED again, did you not? And, if you have to LIE to make your argument, shouldn't that make you wonder?

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